Difference between revisions of "Whips"

Skills
Weapon Skills	Blades • Clubs • Fists • Flails • Medic • Pistols • Rifles • Science • Spears • Whips
Combat Skills	Bombs • Dodge • Focus • Quickdraw • Torture • Wrestle
Mobility Skills	Climb • Pilot • Ride • Swim
Support Skills	Hack • Locksmith • Medic • Repair • Teach • Track
Crafting Skills	Chemistry • Craft • Science
Miscellaneous Skills	Appraise • Fish • Fuck • Linguist • Persuade • Scavenge • Sneak • Throw
Defunct Skills	Feet • Steal

Latest revision as of 13:26, 3 June 2019

To shadow Indiana Jones, you will need reflexes and decent senses.

The whips skill governs the accuracy and damage of your attacks with whips, lashes, chains and similar weapons. It is in turn goverened by reflexes and senses.

A HellMOO player demonstrating whips' special interaction with the spank command.

Advantages

Speed - High end whips are very fast.
Electric damage - The flash whip does a lot of shock, which is difficult to soak in PvP.
Dodge-friendly stats - Dodge is a very powerful method of avoiding damage, and it's governed by the same stats as Whips, so any strong whips user will also have very high dodge.
Only two stats - Most classes depend on three stats: brawn, reflexes, and something else. Whips only needs reflexes and senses, and gets very little value from brawn. This means whippers can max a different useful stat instead...
- Brainy whips is strong for both crafting and lockpicking, which are both skills with high demand. This also has potential for strong feint attacks.
- Endurance whips opens the door to big Focus totals and generally high combat strength.
Parry Class coverage - Whips is one of only two classes in the game with a viable weapon in three parry classes (the other being Fists). Using this, whippers can force fights to be on their terms and take advantage of their high dodge.
Ease of acquisition - Of the three common whips, one can be easily found for free, and the other two are relatively simple to craft.
Strong(ish) against guns - Endurance whippers can use their big focus to very heavily debuff the to-hit of gunners. Combined with high dodge, they can make it very hard for guns to hit them. This isn't perfect, and doesn't work at all against minmaxed gunners, but it's better than most classes can do.

Disadvantages

Low damage - Most whips struggle to reach over 30 max damage, and since they don't scale with Brawn, their damage is hard-capped.
Low accuracy - Compared to other weapons classes, whips are generally less accurate overall.
Few damage options - Whips can only do slash and electric damage in strong quantities.
Poor weapon variety - Whips has few weapons as a whole, and fewer viable endgame ones. Razorchains, urumis and flash whips are the most used by far, with alternatives like the flame chain and link whip being only situationally useful.
Innate parry penalty - All whips suffer a hidden penalty when attempting to parry. This problem is unavoidable when facing a PC0 opponent.
Low Brawn - Whips gain little benefit from brawn, which means a lower inventory capacity, immense difficulty with dragging corpses, and more trouble using Rifles for whatever your whip can't deal with.
Weak against Fists - Whips can't out-parry-class jawbreakers at PC0, so they're forced into parry vs. parry. Since Fists gets great to-hit, the odds are in the fister's favor - and if they land a grab, the whipper is stuck because of their low brawn.

Notable Weapons

See the whips weaponry page for an exhaustive listing.

Antenna whip - Buyable from Ammu-Nation, a good purchase for new whippers at 1 raw in their skill, used until they can get and use something better. The leather whip is better, improvised with human skins.

Nail Sjambok - A rare spawn on the second level of the Sharpton Projects. If you have one, great, use it to 6 raw.

Venomous lash - Crafted, with the recipe hidden somewhere. Useful until 6 raw. Even after that, nice to keep in a backpack, because acid damage is good for breaking down doors.

Link whip - Crafted or looted from freaks in the Necropolis. PC2, does beat damage. Useful until you can get something better, and sometimes used to hunt junkers.

Flame chain - Either bought in Weezer Village or rarely looted from Karnivores in Nukem Academy. Relatively slow flame damage that scales with Brawn slightly. Great for hunting ice yetis.

Flash whip - Crafted from blacklashes, which drop from freaks in the Necropolis. Does concentrated shock damage, fast, PC1, one-handed and accurate as whips go. Great for PvP - hardly anyone wears deathsuits, so these can punch right through soaks.

Razorchain - Found on freaks in the Necropolis (or crafted, but nobody bothers). Slash and bleed damage, a little higher than the urumi. PC2, two-handed and extremely disposable. Great for PvE.

Urumi - Crafted in the forge. PC0, so you can dodge most weapons with this. One-handed, fast slashing damage. Good against Nullianacs, or anything else PC1 or up that you really want to dodge.

Modding

For exhaustive details on mods, see the Weapon Mods page.

Elemental - Direct damage upgrades on elemental whips. Butane kits on flame chains, shock generators on flash whips. Urumis can't take an elemental.

Grip - The formula is the same for all whips - if you have enough reflexes to speedcap the whip on your own, install a gyro grip. Otherwise, use a balanced grip for the speed. Urumis can't take gyro, so use balanced grips on those.

Unique whip mods - Whips has two unique mods, ninetails and tentacles. Ninetails adds 3-6 slash damage, while tentacle adds 1-3 unsoakable bleed. They're incompatible with eachother. Ninetails is best on razorchains and urumis for PvE damage, while the tentacle is best on the flash whip for unsoakable PvP damage. The tentacle is also good on the razorchain for the specific purpose of fighting basilisks (which do not soak bleed).

Strategy

PvE - Razorchain for 90% of enemies, flash whips for the few that soak slash, urumis for Nullianacs. For lategame, prioritize dodge over soaks unless you're fighting gunners.

PvP - Use the flash whip, it punches through almost everything. If you have endurance, use your big Focus to debuff people with Carrie and Screech. Urumi is also useful for dodging PC1 opponents.

Racial Synergy

Abomination/Zombie - Neither of these classes play to whips' strengths. All of zombie's extra brawn will be wasted, alongside a -2 to dodge, and Abomination subtracts great strength from either the brains or focus strengths of either of the two common whips builds.
Chromemouth - A subpar option for endurance whippers who don't want to go all in and take freak.
Chud - Generally unpopular, also a freak-lite option but without the stat changes.
Hideous Freak - The classic whips choice. +2 whips and dodge, and reversed stress means you can spam focus abilities as much as you like at almost no cost, assisted also by the +3 bonus to focus.
Vampire - The minmax option. +2 whips and dodge, and unlike freak, vampires have no implant caps, so you can push your stats to the absolute top-end. However, between no stress reversal, the +4 brawn being wasted and the heavy downsides of vampire, it's not worthwhile for whips outside of specialized builds.

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 ''To shadow Indiana Jones, you will need [[reflexes]] and decent [[senses]].''
-Whips is a weapon skill that relies on [[reflexes]] and [[senses]]. While they have lower damage potential than some weapons, they are fast. The whips build potentially gives you very high dodge, which allows you to become a formidable fighter while wearing little armour.
+The whips skill governs the accuracy and damage of your attacks with whips, lashes, chains and similar weapons. It is in turn goverened by [[reflexes]] and [[senses]].
+[[File:whips.png|thumb|right|400px|A HellMOO player demonstrating whips' special interaction with the {{cmd|spank}} command.]]
 ==Advantages==
-The higher end whips are very fast. Also, the better ones do elemental damage, with the electric damage on blacklashes and flash whips being super keen. Since you'll be raising reflexes and senses for these, you'll have the best dodge of any other build. Senses is also a secondary stat for crafters, so putting the rest of your gym ip into brains will allow you to have high craft. Characters who want to be strong on brains skills, eg. hack, lockpick, chemistry and science, are encouraged to be whip users. Alternatively, gymming endurance as your third stat would allow your character to be excellent at the focus skill.
+* '''Speed''' - High end whips are very fast.
+* '''Electric damage''' - The flash whip does a lot of shock, which is difficult to soak in PvP.
+* '''[[Dodge]]-friendly stats''' - Dodge is a very powerful method of avoiding damage, and it's governed by the same stats as Whips, so any strong whips user will also have very high dodge.
+* '''Only two stats''' - Most classes depend on three stats: brawn, reflexes, and something else. Whips only needs reflexes and senses, and gets very little value from brawn. This means whippers can max a different useful stat instead...
+** [[Brains|Brainy]] whips is strong for both crafting and lockpicking, which are both skills with high demand. This also has potential for strong {{cmd|feint}} attacks.
+** [[Endurance]] whips opens the door to big [[Focus]] totals and generally high combat strength.
+* '''[[Parry Class]] coverage''' - Whips is one of only two classes in the game with a viable weapon in three parry classes (the other being [[Fists]]). Using this, whippers can force fights to be on their terms and take advantage of their high dodge.
+* '''Ease of acquisition''' - Of the three common whips, one can be easily found for free, and the other two are relatively simple to craft.
+* '''Strong(ish) against guns''' - Endurance whippers can use their big focus to very heavily debuff the to-hit of gunners. Combined with high dodge, they can make it very hard for guns to hit them. This isn't perfect, and doesn't work at all against minmaxed gunners, but it's better than most classes can do.
 ==Disadvantages==
+* '''Low damage''' - Most whips struggle to reach over 30 max damage, and since they don't scale with [[Brawn]], their damage is hard-capped.
+* '''Low accuracy''' - Compared to other weapons classes, whips are generally less accurate overall.
+* '''Few damage options''' - Whips can only do slash and electric damage in strong quantities.
+* '''Poor weapon variety''' - Whips has few weapons as a whole, and fewer viable endgame ones. Razorchains, urumis and flash whips are the most used by far, with alternatives like the flame chain and link whip being only situationally useful.
+* '''Innate parry penalty''' - All whips suffer a hidden penalty when attempting to parry. This problem is unavoidable when facing a PC0 opponent.
+* '''Low [[Brawn]]''' - Whips gain little benefit from brawn, which means a lower inventory capacity, immense difficulty with dragging corpses, and more trouble using [[Rifles]] for whatever your whip can't deal with.
+* '''Weak against [[Fists]]''' - Whips can't out-parry-class jawbreakers at PC0, so they're forced into parry vs. parry. Since Fists gets great to-hit, the odds are in the fister's favor - and if they land a grab, the whipper is stuck because of their low brawn.
-Urumis mainly do slash damage which is pretty easy to get soaks for, and the elemental damage won't do you any good in endgame PvE, as every high-end mob soaks everything well. Most, but not all, whips are [[parry class]] one.
+==Notable Weapons==
+See the [[Weaponry#Whips|whips]] weaponry page for an exhaustive listing.
-==Weapons==
+* '''Antenna whip''' - Buyable from [[Ammu-Nation]], a good purchase for new whippers at 1 raw in their skill, used until they can get and use something better. The '''leather whip''' is better, improvised with human skins.
-* '''Electric cord''' - Poor weapon that you can [[scavenge]] in [[Gangland]]. It's your fork, grind your whip raw with it.
+* '''Nail Sjambok''' - A rare spawn on the second level of the [[Sharpton Projects]]. If you have one, great, use it to 6 raw.
-* '''Riding crop''' - Buyable in [[The Giggling Schoolgirl]], it's basically a sexy alternative for the above.
+* '''Venomous lash''' - Crafted, with the recipe hidden somewhere. Useful until 6 raw. Even after that, nice to keep in a backpack, because acid damage is good for breaking down doors.
-* '''Antenna whip''' - Buyable from [[Ammu-Nation]], it's pretty good for a starter weapon. Does piddling amounts of slash and beat damage, and horrible critical, but it's quick. Even though it's cheaper now, you still shouldn't spend money on it when you can get a...
+* '''Link whip''' - Crafted or looted from freaks in the [[Necropolis]]. PC2, does beat damage. Useful until you can get something better, and sometimes used to hunt junkers.
-* '''Leather whip''' - It's an antenna whip +1, it's slightly better in every way. They are crafted, ask around for these, since you can basically get one for free.
+* '''Flame chain''' -  Either bought in [[Weezer Village]] or rarely looted from Karnivores in [[Nukem Academy]]. Relatively slow flame damage that scales with [[Brawn]] slightly. Great for hunting ice yetis.
-* '''Link whip''' - Does beat damage, you will probably never touch one.
+* '''Flash whip''' - Crafted from blacklashes, which drop from freaks in the [[Necropolis]]. Does concentrated shock damage, fast, PC1, one-handed and accurate as whips go. Great for PvP - hardly anyone wears deathsuits, so these can punch right through soaks.
-* '''Venomous lash''' - Also crafted, with the recipe hidden somewhere. It does the rare acid damage and some slash, but it's slow as to hit and less accurate than previous whips. Acid damage is useful for breaking into things, you might want to keep on in your pack for that purpose.
+* '''Razorchain''' - Found on freaks in the [[Necropolis]] (or crafted, but nobody bothers). Slash and bleed damage, a little higher than the urumi. PC2, two-handed and extremely disposable. Great for PvE.
-* '''Flame chain''' - Good stuff. A mob that you probably can't kill when you first want to get one drops these. The only two handed PC2 whip at the moment. Does flame and beat damage. They're a little slow, and you need some [[brawn]] (not much) to max out the damage.
+* '''Urumi''' - Crafted in the forge. PC0, so you can dodge most weapons with this. One-handed, fast slashing damage. Good against Nullianacs, or anything else PC1 or up that you really want to dodge.
-* '''Blacklash''' - Craftable. Does less damage than flame chains, but some of that damage is ELECTRIC (and some slash). Real fast. Outclassed by...
+==Modding==
+For exhaustive details on mods, see the [[Weapon Mods]] page.
-* '''Flash whip''' - Blacklash without the poor slash damage and more volts/amps. Does as much electric damage as flame chains does fire (max of 20! Oh my!). Also faster and more accurate than blacklashes. You want these.
+* '''Elemental''' - Direct damage upgrades on elemental whips. Butane kits on flame chains, shock generators on flash whips. Urumis can't take an elemental.
-* '''Urumi''' - The Urumi is a newer whip on HellMOO, It is the best whip in the game, with great slash damage.
+* '''Grip''' - The formula is the same for all whips - if you have enough [[reflexes]] to speedcap the whip on your own, install a gyro grip. Otherwise, use a balanced grip for the speed. Urumis can't take gyro, so use balanced grips on those.
-See [[Weaponry]] for additional details.
+* '''Unique whip mods''' - Whips has two unique mods, ninetails and tentacles. Ninetails adds 3-6 slash damage, while tentacle adds 1-3 unsoakable bleed. They're incompatible with eachother. Ninetails is best on razorchains and urumis for PvE damage, while the tentacle is best on the flash whip for unsoakable PvP damage. The tentacle is also good on the razorchain for the specific purpose of fighting basilisks (which do not soak bleed).
-==Mods slots==
+==Strategy==
-* '''Elemental''' - Either the butane or shock mod. Put butane on your flame chains and shock on your electric whips, you need them lower the chance of "X's whip bounces off Y's skin!" messages in combat.
-* '''Grip''' - Gyro, balanced, and loltape. 420 install balanced grips every whip, everybody likes faster speed.
-* '''Unique whip mods''' - The tentacle and ninetails mods. Tentacle does a little of the super keen mostly unsoakable bleeding damage, and the ninetails gives a slightly better slash damage bonus. You can only have one or the other, though weapons already modded with both are not affected by this. There's also the acid pump kit that gives 1-3 acid damage and still fairly unique to whips.
-* '''The EMP mod slot''' - Hello I am the EMP mod, I make your weapon harder to repair. Ghosts take flame and shock damage from flame chains and flash whips so the EMP mod is <s>fairly</s> totally useless. It is not possible to put an EMP mod on a whip and an elemental mod, which makes them even more worthless for whips.
+* '''PvE''' - Razorchain for 90% of enemies, flash whips for the few that soak slash, urumis for Nullianacs. For lategame, prioritize dodge over soaks unless you're fighting gunners.
-==Strategy==
+* '''PvP''' - Use the flash whip, it punches through almost everything. If you have endurance, use your big [[Focus]] to debuff people with [[Carrie]] and [[Screech]]. Urumi is also useful for dodging PC1 opponents.
-* '''PvE''' - Fully mod a pair of urumis and flash whips, get as much soaks with as little dodge penalty as you can and go town, switching between them as appropriate.
+=== Racial Synergy ===
+* '''[[Abomination]]/[[Zombie_(mutation)|Zombie]]''' - Neither of these classes play to whips' strengths. All of zombie's extra brawn will be wasted, alongside a -2 to dodge, and Abomination subtracts great strength from either the brains or focus strengths of either of the two common whips builds.
+* '''[[Chromemouth]]''' - A subpar option for endurance whippers who don't want to go all in and take freak.
+* '''[[Chud]]''' - Generally unpopular, also a freak-lite option but without the stat changes.
+* '''[[Hideous Freak]]''' - The classic whips choice. +2 whips and dodge, and reversed stress means you can spam focus abilities as much as you like at almost no cost, assisted also by the +3 bonus to focus.
+* '''[[Vampire]]''' - The minmax option. +2 whips and dodge, and unlike freak, vampires have no implant caps, so you can push your stats to the absolute top-end. However, between no stress reversal, the +4 brawn being wasted and the heavy downsides of vampire, it's not worthwhile for whips outside of specialized builds.
-* '''PvP''' - Get a flash whip, hope your opponent doesn't prepare for it/gank them.
+{{SkillsListbox}}
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-==Summary==
-[[File:whips.png|thumb|center|650px]]

Difference between revisions of "Whips"

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Disadvantages

Notable Weapons

Modding

Strategy

Racial Synergy

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